Philadelphia Marathon Tips

I had to laugh when last week, after I announced that I was running the Philadelphia Marathon instead of New York, a few people emailed, tweeted, or left me Facebook messages asking if I’d do a tips and tricks post for the marathon in advance of November 18th. My first reaction was laughter as I knew very little about the marathon when I signed up. Sure I lived in Philadelphia for 3 years and ran the half multiple times but I don’t know the full course very well.

So what do I do when you’re confused or don’t know the answer to something? Ask for help!

I quickly reached out to a few friends and acquaintances who have run the marathon multiple times and am now able to share with you a pretty amazing Philadelphia Marathon Tips guide for both runners and spectators. If you find this helpful, please feel free to share with friends or across your social networks! If I missed anything, feel free to ask in the comments and I’ll do my best to get you an answer before Thursday!

The Course: I am inspired by my co-worker Mark on a daily basis. Not only is his 40 something body able to run a 3:17 marathon, but he is the most helpful and kind runner I know! He has sent me multiple inspirational messages during this training journey and has accompanied me on many a run. As soon as he heard I was running Philadelphia he put me in touch with his friend, a local Philadelphia runner, so I could understand the ins and outs of the course. After training for New York, a marathon that I’ve run twice before, it felt weird to sign up for a marathon whose course I don’t know very well in advance. I was amazed when his friend sent over a VERY thorough course description which included his tips. I asked him permission and he was more than happy for me to share it directly on the blog for everyone’s benefit!

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Happy to help – the course has been essentially the same for a while now.  Apologies for the length here, but I’m avoiding election coverage and welcome the distraction.  

Overall, it’s fairly flat and known for being a pretty fast course.  If you’ve been training for NYC in the city itself (including bridge work and/or the hills of central park), none of the hills that are on the course should adversely effect you. Philly used to be one of the marathons people ran to qualify for Boston. 

Start is by the Art Museum – they’ve made a lot of progress with corrals and spacing, in the past few years.  My recommendation is to be at or near the front of the corral behind the one to which you are assigned.  This way, you can help avoid getting stuck in a crowd and can find whatever pace you feel comfortable with, early on.  Also, you’re more apt to start catching runners in the group in front of you, as you go.  (Always good for the psyche.) Keep in mind, unlike NYC, you’re also running with half-marathoners.  Slightly different crowd. 

Anyway, the first 6 to 6.5 miles run through the flat streets of Philly proper: center city (which is the closest Philly comes to nyc midtown environment) and old city (which can include brief sections of cobblestone).  You’ll know you’re heading into old city when you run through Independence Mall.  Through this section of the race, you’ll find a few turns along the way, which can slow you down, depending on crowds around you.  Also, the streets get more narrow in sections.  They don’t always clear the streets of cars, so it can get like the sections of NYC you find in Brooklyn. (Think bay ridge).
Bw 6 and 7, you’ll cross a bridge into west Philadelphia.  That’s when you’ll notice some hills starting.  You’ll also get some nice energy from the greeks at Penn. (Don’t feed them.). The hill at mile 7 or so isn’t going to kill you – especially if you’ve done your bridgework.  It’s a little long and the pitch is roughly equivalent to the Williamsburg bridge. Keep your pacing honest and respect the hill here and you’ll be fine. I mention this because the worst hill on the course comes at around mile 9 or so, when you start to head to the zoo.  Before you hit that hill, you’ll notice you’ve lost the crowds.  They largely stop when you’re past Penn and Drexel. There will be select areas w some crowds as you go – but they can get kind of sparse for prolonged sections of the remainder of the race.

One more word about the hill at mile 9 – it’s a solid hill. Fairly prolonged, good steepness to it.  A lot of people run it really stupidly.  Expect to slow your pace here.  I’m always conservative with this hill, unless someone’s chasing me. Good news is, you’ll know this hill when you see it and the rest of the course is frankly pretty routine.  After the hill at 9, you’ll get a downhill return for roughly 4 miles – you’ll see "Boathouse Row" on the left and you’ll see you’ll find yourself back at the Art Museum.  This is where you’ll lose the half-marathoners. They’ll go straight to their finish, while you’ll head left out to a town called Manayunk. 

The Manayunk leg is an out and back: 6 out, tap Manayunk and run the 10k back to the finish.  Depending on who you talk to, some describe this leg as downhill out and uphill back – others describe it as a series of mini-hills.  Both descriptions are basically right.  This section is part of a very popular running route in philly: tree lined, right along the river and largely scenic.  You’ll get some crowd support in a couple of sections of this leg – depending on the weather, it can get very strong. 

I’m not a fan of "out and backs" generally, but this one is tolerable.  Just ignore the mile markers and runners in the opposite direction (ie ahead of you) when you’re heading out.  
Preparing for NYC will serve you well here, because good training can put you in position to make up some time on this section. The one thing I’ll mention on this section is to remember that, near the very end of the return (and the marathon itself) you have a gradual hill that’s roughly 1 mile long.  After 24 miles plus, it has beaten up many a runner and it’s a frequent mistake for people to forget about it.  Don’t forget it’s there – it starts at the end of Boathouse Row on your return.  Can’t miss it. Save some energy for it.  Once you’re atop the hill, with the Art Museum again on your right, it’s the last point 2 to the finish.  Empty the tank then.

I think that’s about it.  It’s a pretty well run race – the water stops are stocked and staffed well.  They’ve expanded the field to try to accommodate the abandoned NYC marathoners (adding 3k more).  So, it should be more crowded than usual.  But, it doesn’t get more crowded than the upper deck of the Verrazano.  You should be fine.

Spectating: The Philadelphia Marathon is known for amazing spectators the majority of the first 13 miles. After that, it’s a bit of a mixed bag. There are always a number of spectators at the end and in Manayunk. Therefore, I would highly suggest asking your friends and or family to spectate in one of the “dead zones” if at all possible. Since it’s an out and back course for part of the marathon, if they chose a spot along here they could not only see you at the beginning and end, but also the tough parts. Here are my suggestions based on course research and where I’ll be requesting the amazing BETH to try and spectate if possible.

  • Do not attempt to spectate in the first few miles of the marathon. Due to the start, which includes half marathon runners, it is pretty crowded at this point and will make finding people very difficult. The crowd spreads out a bit after mile 3 so this is the best place to even consider spectating during the early miles.
  • If you hang out on Kelly Drive towards the Mile 15 point, you’ll see your runners at mile 15 and 24. These are both pivotal miles as 15 is when it has truly set in that you’re running a marathon and you’ve broken off from the half marathon crowd. Mile 24 can also be a tipping point in a PR so knowing that you’re going to see someone at that point can really help push you through mile 23. The great thing about this location is that it’s only 2 miles down Kelly Drive from the finish so if you’re a runner, walker, or jogger spectating you can walk back to the finish to meet your runner.
  • Tell your spectators to wear something that will stand out to you. For example, I may have Bo where his bright red North Face jacket or a Georgia Tech baseball hat. Things like this, or an I Love Sweat T-Shirt, make finding your spectators easier!
  • Make super fun signs and come up with a few cheers. In addition, do not say the following to marathon runners UNLESS you are standing at mile 26. (pictures and suggestions on what not to say from Erica Sara’s blog)
      • You’re almost there (when they are NOT almost there)
      • This is the last hill (when it’s NOT the last hill)
      • Run faster (trust me, they are trying)

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I hope these tips help!

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19 Comments

  1. Beth @RxBethOnTheRun November 13, 2012 / 3:30 am

    THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can’t wait to cheer for you 🙂 Get excited for cowbells!!!!!

  2. Maureen November 13, 2012 / 11:38 am

    Thanks for posting this Ashley! The detailed course description is awesome and a huge help for me. I’m running on Sunday and had heard from other runners that the Kelly Drive section can be a little dead with spectators. Good luck!

  3. Meghan November 13, 2012 / 12:48 pm

    Thanks for posting, Ash! Super duper helpful!

  4. NYC Fit GIrl November 13, 2012 / 1:35 pm

    Thanks for the tips Ashley! I am sure you are going to do great at the marathon this weekend!

  5. Melissa November 13, 2012 / 1:47 pm

    I ran the half last year, so I can’t be too helpful when it comes to the Kelly Drive review, but just a head’s up – the porta potty lines for this race were crazy! I waited nearly 40 minutes for one at the start, but never made it to the front of the line before the race started, and at mile 9, when I couldn’t hold it any more, I ended up waiting nearly five minutes for one! I heard from a friend that there were better (and less packed!) porta potty options on the course after mile 9. My one recommendation would be to go before you leave and get there early if you have a nervous bladder!

    • ashleyd November 14, 2012 / 2:06 pm

      That’s a great addition. Maybe I’ll go into the post and update it now or share with people via Twitter!

  6. Steph @ Steph Runs On November 13, 2012 / 4:14 pm

    I’m not running Philly this weekend, but I just wanted to say that I think every runner could benefit from a friend like Mark! Some really good tips in all of that. Makes me wish I WERE running. Have a great race!

  7. Nicole November 13, 2012 / 9:51 pm

    Thanks so much for posting this. We are coming in from SC to run and this was so helpful!

  8. Laura November 13, 2012 / 10:15 pm

    This was SO helpful! As a first time marathon runner who trained very well for NYC bridges and hills, these tips helped calm my nerves immensely! xoxo

    • ashleyd November 14, 2012 / 2:06 pm

      Laura, I hope you do wonderfully this weekend and enjoy every minute! I am glad the tips helped!

  9. Deborah November 13, 2012 / 10:26 pm

    This is awesome Ashley! I am so excited to be among my fellow displaced NYC Marathoners this Sunday. I knew the course was going to be *easier* than NYC, but hearing someone who knows about the course really helps. Also good information for my honey who will be spectating. Thanks for the info!

  10. michelle kim November 14, 2012 / 1:02 am

    Cool! Love the tips (though I’m not running it). Love the race-day posters 🙂

    • ashleyd November 14, 2012 / 2:05 pm

      Thanks Michelle! I know aren’t those posters hilarious? I may have to make Bo a poster for Sunday!

  11. Laura November 14, 2012 / 1:43 am

    My new favorite sign, seen at Sunday’s Fort Worth Marathon:
    “It’s hard and long; now do it fast! (TWSS)”

    Cracked me up 🙂

    • ashleyd November 14, 2012 / 2:04 pm

      That’s a great sign! I should make Bo that sign to hold on Sunday!!

  12. Ashley @ LibertyBelles November 14, 2012 / 4:47 pm

    I live in Philadelphia and my roommate is running. I’ll be out there cheering everyone on! Thanks for the tips!

  13. Lindsey November 16, 2012 / 5:18 pm

    Hi! I live outside of Philly and ran the marathon last year. It’s hard to believe that this time last year I was freaking out with nerves and anxiety over it.

    One tip I have for the slow, steady runner (like me!), is to hold onto your water bottle through the back end of the race. Last year, the water stations from mile 16-25 were out of cups by the time I shuffled on by. I had held onto my water bottle and the volunteers were able to refill it for me. There was plenty of water but all the cups were used by those 19,000 faster runners.

    Best of luck and happy running to you and everyone on Sunday! I’ll be cheering somewhere along the route.

    • ashleyd November 17, 2012 / 12:38 pm

      Thanks for the tips Lindsey! I am running with my Camelbak so that should help!

  14. Diana November 17, 2012 / 9:00 pm

    This advice is pretty much spot on! I’m from Philly and tomorrow will be my second time doing the marathon. I would also add to make sure you don’t start out too fast in the beginning. Last year I was keeping pace with some fast runners, only to realize at mile 13 they were doing the half. Oops! Otherwise, good crowd support, minimal hills and great weather predictions. Should be a great day. Good luck!

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